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It really, really is us versus them now

by Marrick on January 29, 2013

Governments don’t really pay back debt. They just roll it over. Economic growth, can reduce the % of debt to GDP, making previous borrowings increasingly less significant. The UK has debt exceeding 100% of GDP in 81 of the last 170 years, there has never been a crunch time, when it suddenly all had to be paid back.

What tends to happen is this: we borrow, GDP increases, borrowings become a lower proportion of GDP than when first borrowed. Talking in absolutes – pounds instead of percentages – doesn’t do anything to throw light on the debate, because of this fact.

This, of course, is all predicated on economic growth. If that doesn’t happen, then the debt as a proportion of our GDP doesn’t reduce. This is why our debt is currently spiralling out of control – because we don’t have growth.

“In effect, the Government with their austerity policies are the architects of our current economic malaise.”

Growth requires investment. Cuts to government expenditure have a multiplier effect. So if you cut a pound from expenditure, you reduce GDP by between £1.20 and £1.60. This is a little simplistic, but it serves the purpose.

In effect, the Government with their austerity policies are the architects of our current economic malaise. The worrying thing is THEY KNOW THIS. So you can only assume that they are cutting for another reason. Conjecture about this is fruitless – there could be a million and one reasons for wanting to stop growth and place the burden on the working people of Britain. My own favourites are: (a) growth is, or soon will be no longer sustainable, so the government is preparing the way for an economic apocalypse, or (b) they are taking the opportunity of our recent crisis to entrench the pre-eminence of the “haves” at the expense of the “have nots”.

Either way, we’re paying and they’re not. That has to change, otherwise social unrest will become a highly visible, daily component of life in Britain. This is a dangerous and highly volatile time – the dam which filters working class aspiration is creaking and if it breaks in an uncontrolled manner, we could see all kinds of weird political results. People look for scapegoats when they are under pressure – it is natural to assume that you’re not to blame – and when an easy target is shown to you by a charismatic leader, quite often people buy into it and react accordingly.

I really fear for the future if the British people give in to the siren calls of prejudice, because in truth, we really are “all in it together” (the elite excepted) and together we must stand. Don’t be fooled by the side shows of Europe, so-called Muslim terrorism, greedy Trade Unions, corrupt politicians that are “all the same”, work-shy disabled and lazy benefit claimants.

These are diversions.

They’re grabbing your attention, diverting your eyes from the real culprits: the rich and their unending war on those of us who make everything, build everything, and create everything. Never has there been a time in my life when the old Trade Union adage of “Together we stand and divided we fall” been more true. It really, really is us versus them now.

3 thoughts on “It really, really is us versus them now

  1. sallyb41 says:

    Very well put. I think our current crisis is a combination of both of the reasons you have put above. I just hope we don’t go down the Golden Dawn route.

  2. ubermik says:

    Very well put but to be fair it SHOULD be something that most people in the country already know because of how obvious it is. And yet barely any people seem to drag their eyes away from newspapers or the TV long enough to digest any information that is actually factual and not designed to progress the elitists agenda through their wholly owned media propoganda machine

  3. ubermik says:

    One of my more comedic musings on this topic is that perhaps we are simply seeing one of the longest examples of payback ever

    Not saying this as an actual belief, but simply a semi humorous hypothesis but consider this

    until the 1800s onwards the rich pretty much owned the poor and any wages paid barely covered a roof and a barely adequate diet plus obviously there was no healthcare for the poor, no welfare state and the working class were despite the illusion of pay slaves to the wealthy living in an effective indentured servitude

    But then those pesky ungrateful peasants realised that they could through organisation demand a better deal, better pay, better working and living conditions etc etc all of which ate into the profit margins of the wealthy

    Poor people tend to plan ahead in days, weeks, months maybe a year or two if theyre fairly well off with vastly varying degrees of success due to the lack of control they have over their enviroment

    Very wealthy people though routinely start plans in motion that span several decades

    So my drunken musings were this. When the revolting masses revolted the rich due to sheer weight of numbers had to begrudgedly give in to demands. They, as rich people do then used the new arrangement to shift social focus from just existing to having a “nice life” which created consumerism and frivolous needs which in turn increased debt, lending

    Moving on to more recently we developed a welfare system which was truly amazing in concept and principle. But even that was open to the people controlling it to allow it to be run poorly and therefore into the ground, let immigration run riot, put not safeguards on greed and put all the burden of the rich folks follies onto the poor and eventually you create an economic meltdown that will allow you to offer any cuts in public spending or services as “the” solitary answer and people out of fear will allow it (kind of how pre WW2 germans reacted to the nazis I suspect)

    And then when the revenge is really really cold you can slap it on a plate and make those ungrateful peasants that ripped off you great great great great grandfather pay for their cheek by removing all the things that they enjoy, by making the cost of their basic living expenses so high they are effectively in servitude and by removing all their social support systems and welfare so that no matter how poorly paid a job is, or how few rights they have whilst doing it they have NO choice at all

    Kind of far fetched, yep, quite probably

    A case of making the facts fit the concept, perhaps

    Impossible though? Nope, and as most of the rich people now are descendants of the same rich families from most of the last millenium its quite possible that past grudges have been passed on to each new generation having an ifnluence on direction and decisions even if not as part of an actual plan if you can see that

    But however we try to disguise it with utility bills as they are I suspect that around 60% or more of our population are in effective servitude as their basic living costs meet or exceed their income,

    To paraphrase

    When they came for the single mothers I wasnt a single mother so I kept my head down and said nothing.

    When they came for the unemployed I had a job, so I kept my head down and said nothing.

    When they came for the disabled I was able bodied so i kept my head down and said nothing.

    When they went after the trade unions I wasnt in a union so I said nothing.

    When they went after the immigrants I was and immigrant so It didnt seem to affect me.

    When they went after the people with spare bedrooms I owned my house so I didnt pay attention.

    When they took away my pension, increased my tax and doubled my cost of living then removed my workers rights there didnt seem to be anyone who wanted to listen………

    Pay close attention to history or risk repeating it.

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